German Lists for V4

[bigchris]

I have been working on a couple of lists for V4 Germans.  Mike has kindly helped me tweak one of them, and based on that input I made a similar list from another sourcebook.

List 1:
Panzer Kompanie, GreyWolf
Confident Veteran
Core Units
Panzerkompanie HQ: 2x StuG G

Panzer Platoon: 4x StuG G

Panzer Platoon: 3x Panther G

Support Units
Gepanzerte Aufklarungs Platoon:
1x CMD smg/panzerfaust team
6x MG team
1x Sdkfz 250/10 (3.7cm)
3x Sdkfz 250

Rocket Launcher Battery: 2x 15cm NW41

Anti-Aircraft Platoon: 2x Sdkfz 10/5 (2cm) (armoured)

1515 points on the nose.

List 2:
Hermann Goring Stug Batterie
Hermann Goring Divisions on the Eastern Front
Herman Goring Units pass Last Stand rolls on 3+
Core Units
HG StuG Batterie HQ" 1x StuG G (late)

HG StuG Platoon: 3x StuG G (late)
HG StuG Platoon: 3x StuG G (late)
Warrior: Major Hans Sandrock in StuG G (late)

Support Units:
HG Panther Platoon: 3x Panther G
Hermann Goring Rocket Launcher Battery: 2x 15cm NW41

1510 points.

The first list, I think is a bit more flexible in options, but the 3+ last stand for HG and Major Sandrock may make the other list an attractive option.

What do you guys think?

[Zach]

I'm not sure panthers are the best choice for 1515 points but if you do want to use them I would go for the HG list but drop sandrock. I know he's very helpful and annoying to play against but he's very expensive and if you take panthers, that doesn't leave much for the rest of your army. I don't really know how much he's worth but I would try to get 9 stugs instead of 8 plus another neb to not have to re-roll hits.

[bigchris]

The panthers are for dealing with other big cats, Soviet heavies and Tanks like Pershings and Jumbos.  Sandrock, I think, still can have a part to play.  Especially giving a platoon he stays near the scout ability.  The StuG's are almost the same cost.  Sandrock is just adding flanking shots, scouting, and sniping.